Industry's Harry Lawtey: "We meet a very different Robert in season two!"

Harry Lawtey as Robert in Industry, wearing a suit with no tie and standing mostly in shadow, with the light just shining on the right side of his face
Harry Lawtey as Robert in Industry. (Image credit: BBC/HBO)

In the first season of Industry, Robert Spearing (Harry Lawtey) had an eye-opening introduction into the world of high finance after joining investment bank Pierpoint & Co. Relying on his natural charm — as well as his easy access to booze and drugs — to schmooze clients, he seemed destined for success, but ultimately his hard-partying lifestyle started to get in the way of his ability to function, at work or anywhere else.

As the hit finance drama returns for Industry season two, a newly-sober Robert is trying to re-establish himself in a changing world at Pierpoint, but now that he has to rely entirely on his own talents to succeed, he has become plagued by self-doubt.

We spoke to Harry to find out more about what lies in store for Robert this season...

How has Robert changed by the start of season two?

"I think we meet quite a different person to the one we originally met at the start of Industry season one. Back then, he had this very firm mask up of faux confidence and charm and all those things. In the second season, the show is post-pandemic and he's spent the last two years on his own — he hasn't had all that kind of external validation that makes him feel good about who he is, and he's had to look in the mirror a little bit more and be a little bit more introspective.

"So I think the person that comes back is a lot more comfortable in his own skin, and doesn't feel the need to overcompensate as much. But the issue with that is, if all those things are the reason you got hired, and you strip them away, is he going to be able to be the person he wants to be, and do the job he wants to do, if that person is not the one they met? How is he going to get along without all those crutches for his personality like the drink and the drugs? So yeah, it's a very different Robert — but one that I am more fond of, in a way."

Harper (Myha'la Herrold) and Eric (Ken Leung) stand on the trading floor at Pierpoint in a scene from Industry. The room behind them is in disarray with papers all over the floor, and they appear to be having an intense and heated conversation.

Harper (Myha'la Herrold) also finds it hard to readjust when Eric (Ken Leung) demands that she return to the office (Image credit: HBO/BBC)

Is he more mature this time around, now he's slightly older?

"The first season was about young people trying to be successful while at the same time working out who they are, and if you take that logic and move it into the second season, these people have found a little bit of success, and they've definitely learned a little bit more about who they are — now they have to work out if those things actually work together, if they're compatible, or are they going to have to change? I think that's the question that season two throws up for everyone."

David Jonsson as Gus in Industry, sporting a white t-shirt with a green jacket over the top, in contrast to the more formal outfits sported by his co-stars. He also has dyed his hair pale white.

Robert's best friend Gus (David Jonsson) is exploring his horizons outside Pierpoint in season two. (Image credit: BBC/HBO)

Robert's closest relationship in season one was with Gus, who is no longer at Pierpoint. How does their friendship evolve in this season?

"I think Robert and Gus had a really special relationship in the first season because they were the only people that had any history, they were the only people that were seen to have a past that existed before Pierpoint — they had a foundation to them, and a kind of connection that we all knew was not built on any kind of mutual gain or professional progress, it was probably the purest relationship in the show.

"Like every relationship, that got tested by the industry, and by the demands of their job, but it's something that we really enjoyed playing because it gave our characters an opportunity to laugh and smile and be seen and heard by someone that trusts them. That's something that, again, I think is still being tested in the second season, especially as they pull apart in different ways. But I'd like to think there are still really lovely examples of how they've got each other's back — they are the one person in the show that really understands each other, and it's something that they both fall back on at times when they need it."

Jesse Bloom (Jay Duplass) sits at a window seat in a hotel restaurant, wearing a shirt and tie and reading the Financial Times

Jay Duplass joins Industry's second season as Jesse Bloom, a new client of Harper's. (Image credit: HBO)

How tricky was it to get your head around all the complex banking terminology in the show?

"Acting and banking are very different, but they do share a few things in the sense that they're very competitive, they're quite oversubscribed, and lots of people want to do it, so it can be a very high-risk, high-reward environment. I think, for us, one of the easiest access points is that we were extremely lucky when we got this job, back in 2019, because all four of us that were kind of leading the show were fresh out of drama school, and had been given this ridiculous opportunity which we were very privileged to have. We were kind of naive and slightly green, very excited but also a bit scared, which is exactly the way that our characters were feeling in the show, so that was something we could all use, and we were in it together and could rely on each other in the same way the characters do.

"In terms of the banking terminology, it can be a jargon-heavy show. I think the key thing as an actor is that we're never going to be able to become professional bankers, it's a lot to take on, but we have our great writers as a resource for that. In playing those scenes, what's much more important than understanding the intricacies of the trade, you've just got to know what it means, what the stakes are, and what the consequences of the transaction are between you and another person. If you understand that, that's something you can actually play. I can't play a trade, but I can play what it means to people, and if you focus on that, you'll find a way through it."

Yasmin (Marisa Abela) and Harper (Myha'la Herrold) stand side by side, both wearing dark suits, in a still from Industry's second season

Former best pals Yasmin (Marisa Abela) and Harper (Myha'la Herrold) have had a major fallout — will they be able to put their differences aside? (Image credit: HBO/BBC)

What sort of reaction did you get from real-life bankers?

"Obviously the bank is such a huge presence in our show, and it was one that we, as actors, knew very little about — as you can imagine, it's not our world, but it was a world that we were invited into, and we felt very kind of supported in that because the writers of our show [Mickey Down and Konrad Kay] are ex-bankers themselves, so it's something that they were really keen to make authentic and really truthfully reproduce their experiences.

"But I think as much as it's a bank drama, I think it's actually a drama about workplace culture, and office culture, and the thing I've been most surprised at is that people from all different kinds of industries that have an office have responded to the show for that reason. Some people would come up to me and say, "oh god, this is just like my work", and you ask them what they do and it's not banking, and it's like, "God, is that happening in that industry?!' You have a bit of concern for them, they need to get out of there!

"That's the key thing, rather than it being too kind of bank-centric, whether it's a toxic workplace culture, whether it's a misuse of power — a big theme of the show is power, the exchanges of power, how power is used for gain, and unfortunately there were a few different industries that could relate to those themes."

Industry season two begins on Tuesday, September 27 at 10.40pm on BBC1 in the UK, with the full season available to stream afterwards on iPlayer. 

The full season two is available to stream now on HBO Max in the US.

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Steven Perkins
Staff Writer for TV & Satellite Week, TV Times, What's On TV and whattowatch.com

Steven Perkins is a Staff Writer for TV & Satellite Week, TV Times, What's On TV and whattowatch.com, who has been writing about TV professionally since 2008. He was previously the TV Editor for Inside Soap before taking up his current role in 2020. He loves everything from gritty dramas to docusoaps about airports and thinks about the Eurovision Song Contest all year round.